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+  <h1>Problems (1)</h1>
+  <p>
+    Root filesystem is not enough.  Depenency-based boot means
+    there's no clean split between root and <tt>/usr</tt>.  So
+    initramfs should mount it (implemented in 0.117).  However:
+  </p>
+  <ul class="incremental">
+    <li>
+      initscripts and mountall won't remount it read-write if it's
+      already mounted read-only
+      <ul class="incremental">
+       <li>
+         Current workaround: only do this for systemd
+       </li>
+      </ul>
+    </li>
+    <li>
+      fsck will refuse to operate on <tt>/usr</tt> if already
+      mounted
+      <ul class="incremental">
+       <li>
+         So we need to fsck it from the initramfs
+         <ul class="incremental">
+           <li>
+             But <tt>e2fsck</tt> complains if the superblock
+             time is newer than system time, and system time
+             may not be correct yet
+             <ul class="incremental">
+               <li>
+                 So we need to fix the system time in the
+                 initramfs
+               </li>
+             </ul>
+           </li>
+         </ul>
+       </li>
+      </ul>
+    </li>
+    <li>
+      Selecting the right fsck to install is harder than
+      it seemed
+    </li>
+  </ul>
+</div>
+
+<div class="slide">
+  <h1>Problems (2)</h1>
+  <p class="incremental">
+    Device discovery by kernel is asynchronous.  But that's
+    why we have udev, right?
+  </p>
+  <p class="incremental">
+    Unfortunately not everything needed for device setup is
+    or can be in udev hooks (e.g. cryptsetup requires interaction)
+  </p>
+  <p class="incremental">
+    Lots of hacks used (<tt>while ... do sleep... done</tt>,
+    <tt>udevadm settle</tt> in too many places), and they still
+    sometimes fail
+    (<a href="https://bugs.debian.org/616689">#616689</a> and merged
+    bugs)
+  </p>
+  <p class="incremental">
+    Ubuntu has a somewhat better approach but we still haven't merged
+    it back...
+  </p>
+  <p class="incremental">
+    ...in fact, Debian and Ubuntu branches have been diverging for
+    about 5 years
+  </p>
+</div>
+
 <div class="slide">
   <h1>Questions?</h1>
 </div>